I can’t understand the essence of your post. Are you provoking the Kashmiri Pundits against Muslims? What do you want from Kashmiri Pundits to do?

Hello Nitin ,

Circumstances / support etc make a warrior or a keyboard warrior.

Can you expect a parsi to revolt against Muslims in Iran ?

Chk my blog www.thekashmir.wordpress.com

fine article buddy..thats true

Nitin,I endorse your views,once the most powerful and intellectual community is not striving in a planned manner for their homeland.
Pl visit
http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com/entry/are-kashmiri-pandits-not-human-being/

AND.

http://vspaliwalkt.instablogs.com/entry/kashmiri-origin-pandith-is-us-face-for-muslim-world/

well nitin...every community has some shortcomings.so is wid us.ours is not an extremist community like muslims.so to tag it coward doesnt do justice.a mere 2%population of valley had to first of all think about their families,sons,daughters,wives amidst d muslim fanatics.and no support from governance n indian masses added to it.probably u might not had gone through it.
everyone wants a martyr in neighbour’s house not in his own..

@Nitin

Why are U silent about the role of secular Indian government ? Isn’t the job of government to protect it’s citizens from foreign attacks ?

The Indian government that leaves no stone unturned in protecting the rights of Muslims and Christians ,all in the name of defending the rights of minorities,is silent in the case of Kashmiri Pandits ? Why ?

You have given the example of Iraqis and Afghanis.But you forget that whatever they have achieved they have paid heavy price for that.Today both Iraq and Afghanistan have uncertain future.War never produces great results.It only leads to killing of innocents.You gain less and that too at cost of losing all you have as possession !!!

Shanky and Nitin,
though i’m not a Kashmiri but I’ve observed and seen their plight.Many of Kashmiri Pandits migrated just to save the honour of their female population,which was more imp and usually the top priority for ’Hindus’.
It’s also ridicules that Nehru family,which is still the ’first’,the royal family and even the Abdullah inspite of their Hindu connection didn’t helped upto the required mark.

In an article in the London’s Review of Books, Tariq Ali, a Pakistani wrote an article ”Bitter Chill of Winter”. Though it may not be directly concerned with the point of view, raised by Ticku, eyeballs may enjoy it
In a hangover from Mughal days and to make up for their lack of real power, the Muslims of India had developed an irritating habit of elevating their leaders with fancy titles. In this scheme Sheikh Abdullah became Sher-i-Kashmir, the Lion of Kashmir, and his wife Akbar Jehan Madri-i-Meharban, the Kind Mother. The Lion depended on the Kind Mother to impress famous visitors, to receive them during his frequent absences in prison, and to give him sound political advice. Akbar Jehan was the daughter of Harry Nedous, an Austro-Swiss hotelier, and Mir Jan, a Kashmiri milkmaid. The Nedous family had arrived in India at the turn of the last century and invested their savings in the majestic Nedous Hotel in Lahore – later there were hotels in Srinagar and Poona. Harry Nedous was the businessman; his brothers, Willy and Wally, willied and wallied around; his sister, Enid, took charge of the catering and her pâtisserie at their Lahore hotel was considered ‘as good as anything in Europe’.
Harry Nedous first caught sight of Mir Jan when she came to deliver the milk at his holiday lodge in Gulmarg. He was immediately smitten, but she was suspicious. ‘I might be poor,’ she told him later that week, ‘but I am not for sale.’ Harry pleaded that he was serious, that he loved her, that he wanted to marry her. ‘In that case,’ she retorted wrathfully, ‘you must convert to Islam. I cannot marry an unbeliever.’ To her amazement, he did so, and in time they had 12 children (only five of whom survived). Brought up as a devout Muslim, their daughter Akbar Jehan was a boarder at the Convent of Jesus and Mary in the hill resort of Murree. Non-Christian parents often packed their daughters off to these convents because the education was quite good and the regime strict, though there is evidence to suggest they spent much of their time fantasising about Rudolph Valentino.
In 1928, when a 17-year-old Akbar Jehan had left school and was back in Lahore, a senior figure in British Military Intelligence checked in to the Nedous Hotel on the Upper Mall. Colonel T.E. Lawrence, complete with Valentino-style headgear, had just spent a gruelling few weeks in Afghanistan destabilising the radical, modernising and anti-British regime of King Amanullah. Disguised as ‘Karam Shah’, a visiting Arab cleric, he had organised a black propaganda campaign designed to stoke the religious fervour of the more reactionary tribes and thus provoke a civil war. His mission accomplished, he left for Lahore. Akbar Jehan must have met him at her father’s hotel. A flirtation began and got out of control. Her father insisted that they get married immediately; which they did. Three months later, in January 1929, Amanullah was toppled and replaced by a pro-British ruler. On 12 January, Kipling’s old newspaper in Lahore, the imperialist Civil and Military Gazette, published comparative profiles of Lawrence and ‘Karam Shah’ to reinforce the impression that they were two different people. Several weeks later, the Calcutta newspaper Liberty reported that ‘Karam Shah’ was indeed the ‘British spy Lawrence’ and gave a detailed account of his activities in Waziristan on the Afghan frontier. Lawrence was becoming a liability and the authorities told him to return to Britain. ‘Karam Shah’ was never seen again. Nedous insisted on a divorce for his daughter and again Lawrence obliged. Four years later, Sheikh Abdullah and Akbar Jehan were married in Srinagar. The fact of her previous marriage and divorce was never a secret: only the real name of her first husband was hidden. She now threw herself into the struggle for a new Kashmir. She raised money to build schools for poor children and encouraged adult education in a state where the bulk of the population was illiterate. She also, crucially, gave support and advice to her husband, alerting him, for example, to the dangers of succumbing to Nehru’s charm and thus compromising his own standing in Kashmir.
Another quote from the same article:
When Nehru and Ghaffar Khan revisited Srinigar as Abdullah’s guests in the summer of 1945 it was evident that divisions between the different nationalists were acute. The Lion of Kashmir had laid on a Mughal-style welcome. The guests were taken downriver on lavishly decorated shikaras (gondolas). Barred from gathering on the four bridges along the route, Abdullah’s local Muslim opponents stood on the embankment, dressed in phirens, long tunics which almost touched the ground. In the summer months it was customary not to wear underclothes. As the boats approached, the male protesters, who had not been allowed to carry banners, faced the guests and lifted their phirens; the women turned their backs and bared their buttocks. Muslims had never protested in this way before, and have not done so since. Ghaffar Khan roared with laughter, but Nehru was not amused. Later that day Ghaffar Khan referred to the episode at a rally and told the audience how impressed he had been by the wares on display. Nehru, asked at a dinner the next day how he compared the regions he had visited most recently, replied: ‘Punjabis are crude, Bengalis are hysterical and the Kashmiris are simply vulgar.’

@Nitin

Your response is mired in ambiguity-something that makes your intentions questionable.I mean what’s the real intentions of posting the article?Is it to show Kashmiri Pandits in poor light or bring in light the helplessness of Kashmiri Pandits and thus stir the conscience of people claiming to be the custodians of human rights?

How can the lives of Kashmiri Pandits be measured in term of ”loss and profit”? Some things are above loss and profit. The political survival of over 700,000 Kashmiri Pandits in their birthland can in no way be termed as insignificant by any standards.

”Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits (Hindus) from Kashmir valley is the crucial failure of Indian state to uphold its commitments to people of India as enshrined in Indian constitution which provides right to live with dignity and honour to every citizen irrespective of caste, creed, religion or colour.”

”400,000 Kashmiri Pandits, constituting 99% of the total population of Hindus living in Muslim majority area of the Kashmir Valley, were forcibly pushed out of the Valley by Muslim terrorists, trained in Pakistan, since the end of 1989.”

Why are U trying to ignore the atrocities committed upon the Pandits ? Going by your logic the Pakistani terrorists that are fighting for the so-called liberation movement in Kashmir are doing a great job while peace loving Kashmiris who are toeing the line of law are ”cowards ”? Law breakers in your eyes are real heroes!!

You seem to forget that Kashmiri Pandits have made significant contribution in enriching Indian culture.

In fact, you should condemn the role of institutions like leading International Human Rights Organisations like Amnesty International, Asia Watch and others who are mute spectators in case of Kashmiri Pandits.They are hyperactive when Christian and Muslims in India are at the receiving end but ”cleansing” of Kashmiri Pandits is non-existent !!

It’s time for highlight this paradox along with strange attitude of Indian government towards their cause instead of calling Kasmiri Pandits a non-existent community and thus mitigating their cause ?

You better throw light on what made them a non existent community instead of making mockery of their patience by calling them ”cowards”...LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE NOT COWARDS!!! That should be clear to you and others.

@Nitin

Your response is mired in ambiguity-something that makes your intentions questionable.I mean what’s the real intentions of posting the article?Is it to show Kashmiri Pandits in poor light or bring in light the helplessness of Kashmiri Pandits and thus stir the conscience of people claiming to be the custodians of human rights?

How can the lives of Kashmiri Pandits be measured in term of ”loss and profit”? Some things are above loss and profit. The political survival of over 700,000 Kashmiri Pandits in their birthland can in no way be termed as insignificant by any standards.

”Ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits (Hindus) from Kashmir valley is the crucial failure of Indian state to uphold its commitments to people of India as enshrined in Indian constitution which provides right to live with dignity and honour to every citizen irrespective of caste, creed, religion or colour.”

”400,000 Kashmiri Pandits, constituting 99% of the total population of Hindus living in Muslim majority area of the Kashmir Valley, were forcibly pushed out of the Valley by Muslim terrorists, trained in Pakistan, since the end of 1989.”

Why are U trying to ignore the atrocities committed upon the Pandits ? Going by your logic the Pakistani terrorists that are fighting for the so-called liberation movement in Kashmir are doing a great job while peace loving Kashmiris who are toeing the line of law are ”cowards ”? Law breakers in your eyes are real heroes!!

You seem to forget that Kashmiri Pandits have made significant contribution in enriching Indian culture.

In fact, you should condemn the role of institutions like leading International Human Rights Organisations like Amnesty International, Asia Watch and others who are mute spectators in case of Kashmiri Pandits.They are hyperactive when Christian and Muslims in India are at the receiving end but ”cleansing” of Kashmiri Pandits is non-existent !!

It’s time for highlight this paradox along with strange attitude of Indian government towards their cause instead of calling Kasmiri Pandits a non-existent community and thus mitigating their cause ?

You better throw light on what made them a non existent community instead of making mockery of their patience by calling them ”cowards”...LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE NOT COWARDS!!! That should be clear to you and others.

@Nitin

Is it a number game ? I am not interested in knowing whether they are seven million or seven billion.All I am interested in is that government should take all steps for their safe settlement in land of their birth.You don’t seem to remember that they have been driven away from their homes by militants backed by Pakistan.Why should they fight with foreign power when it’s job of the country in which they are living ?

They are living life like ”nomads” because they have been forced to live that way.Who will love to live life in scattered way ?

”massacre & exodus of KP’s is history now” ..No it’s not a history. It still very fresh in our memories. And it’s not ”digging history” but an attempt to set the records right.The Kashmiri Pundits have always fought well with the secessionist forces but they have always received cold shoulder from the secular Indian government and secular media of ours !!!

@Hemant

Nitin is speaking in ambiguous terms.He wants that Kashmiri Pundits should fight with Islamic militants or Kashmiris (whatever he means )who we all know are enjoying support of foreign power and the Indian should do nothing but watch the whole tamasha silently !!!

@Nitin

Well, I am never interested in unending long debates but critical issues can’t be discussed in a superficial way with all sorts of ”generalizations”.The problem pertaining to Kasmiri Pandits is a serious one and the ideal solution be to let Indian government have meetings with the representatives of Pandits and then prepare blueprint for their rehabilitation at par with their wishes.

You have also referred to some other incidents.I will discuss them but not now as they have nothing to do with issue at hand...And U can see we have already had a long discussion ...

@Nitin

Thanks a lot for stating that ”The fundamental aim of my article was to awake people, who have forgotten the the massacre of innocent Kashmiri Pandits”.

If that really was the aim,then I must congratulate you from core of my heart for bringing their miserable situation in open.It’s not the outcome that matters.It’s our efforts that mean a lot.These little efforts on our part in the long run are going to work wonders.

That’s why as a freelancer I miss no forum to highlight the cause of sufferers like Kashmiri Pandits.I do whatever is in my reach without bothering about the consequences. Remember, result is always is not in our hands.

And that’s why I feel articles like this one matter a lot.

hey nitin..... accordin to me kps are the most powerfull personalities present today.... from microsoft chief to the gay activists, u will get a kp standing there and makin others to stand with him... its not for the all groups to stand from nill to the top... after migration, kps were livin a slumdog life.... but it was not the govt. who make them to move on with the rest of the life... it was us people who got there personalities in front of the nation... Sayin coward to a single person means sayin coward to every kp.... and i didn’t respect ur words at all... let me say u one thing have u ever went to the kp camps... how mesirable life they r livin... livin in london and commentin kps as cowards is shamefull...
and about ur comment on profit and loss..... its not a bussiness deal where u should see ur profit first....human life is the most precious life.
kps they have a golden brain in the positive sense... they can’t effort guns and arms to settle there kashmir dispute.....if we still go with ur thoughts... who will make them to live... as either they have to nourish themselves or they hav to norish there youths with arms....
let me send u a video of one of the terriost who killed more than 30 kps without any reason.... for a short time in this video.. see the condition of one of the kp... and tell me how he should fight....