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Movie on Kashmir
Nitin Ticku , London: Apr 7 2009
Made Popular Apr 8 2009
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Movie on KashmirDear Fellow Kashmiri’s,

I keep thinking that if I get enough money some day, I will make a film on Kashmir. I know I will never get that much money and even if I will, I wouldn’t dare to spend it, keeping the recession and inflation in mind. However I would like to write the story of my film (very briefly); the fundamental objective is to reach to every Kashmiri.

The film starts by showing a mass demonstration for Independence by Kashmiri’s against the Indian government. Young students want to either be part of Pakistan or want an independent Kashmir. An Indian army officer (Paresh Rawal), gets hold of one man, and says, OK, I will give you independence, I will show you Pakistan, the place where you people want to go. The young boy is send to Pakistan. The story is based on his experiences in Pakistan, which makes him swear to God that he will never again ask for Pakistan or independent kashmir. His experiences were as follows:

1) Terrible reputation of Pakistan in international community, where every Pakistani is treated as a Taliban or a member of militia. He tries to convince people that he is not a terrorist, but in vain.

2) Bulldozing naive Kashmiris by strong Punjabi community and radical discrimination by Pakistanis. He feels neglected; his sweet dream of being with Pakistan, turns out to be a nightmare.

3) Implementation of Taliban rule, where he is not free to do anything he wants. He is instead handed a gun to fight the Americans, which is against his wishes.

4) Frequent attacks by terrorists, where he looses his close friends, families.

5) No education for girls, no watching movies, listening to songs. If something like this happens, people will be flogged or beheaded. He does not like this, but is oppressed.

6) No justice system. No appeals in courts. On spot verdict. Could be stoned till death, or killed by gunmen in front of public. He doesn’t know how to demonstrate against this cruelty. This was not India, where demonstrations were allowed. He could have been beheaded in Pakistan.

7) Living in a country of extreme poverty, where international companies are not willing to invest. No jobs, nothing. The nation had just one aim, fight, fight and fight.

8) Sectarian violence. Shia vs Sunni, killing each other. He is devastated.

9) Getting caught in international prisons, like Guantanamo bay, while Indian counterparts (muslins) getting released by just having a look at their nationality.

He truly thinks why did I ever want to be part of Pakistan. He thinks it smarter to be with India, which is

1) An economic superpower

2) Has more muslims than Pakistan

3) Stable, and Secular.

I wish I had the money to make such a movie. However I support that Kashmir should be given greater autonomy, but Indian troops should be stationed on the international borders. I would also recommend to while doing so (giving full autonomy), India should cut its trade links with Kashmir, and ask Kashmir to prove that if it could survive without India.

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yoir maiden post makes an interesting proposal. May I suggest that you take some shots from the movie on Omar Mukhtar, the legandary freedom fighter of Libya. Screening of this movie ignited the smouldering fire among the Kashmiris for Independence. It should be followed by attemts by agent provocateurs to divide Kashmiris on religious lines by raising the slogan ”La illah Ila allah”.
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Manishkumar
Kottayam, India
Great concept for a movie which will be a hit in India and banned in Pakistan
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Andy
Birmingham, United Kingdom
Hey man beware, you can be on the hit list of Taliban or ISI.
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Shweta
Shimla, India
I was discussing this with my friend as well that why Kashmiris want separation from India. Pakistan is a country with poor economy while independent state will create much more troubles for Kashmiris in this tough world of competition and globalization.

I think its best to grow along with the growing India.
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
Kashmir is a political agenda. If you want to be in power in Kashmir and get famous, the best thing is ignite the sentiments of innocent / naive Kashmiri’s.

They, like others in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan are obsessed with religion and not education!
(Global Perspectives)
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Elias
Bombay, India
India is proud to have a beautiful state like Kashmir in the north. We don’t want our brothers to separate from us. I think we should learn a lesson from our neighboring countries which are in chaos (Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal).
United we stand; divided we fall.
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Prabhunarayan
Pondicherry, India
As far as Kashmir is concerned, how Pakistan is interested in this matter? Shimla Agreement signed between Bhutto and Indira Gandhi in 1974, which clearly mention that all parties will respect international border drawn post 1971- war, where Pakistan lost terribly leading to dismemberment of Pakistan , how has Kashmir certainly become relevant to Pakistan ? Moreover, which Kashmir they are talking about ? Are they talking about the part of Kashmir they have gifted to their political masters, China? Under what authority Pakis are talking about UN resolution ? Have people of Kashmir appointed Pakis as their advocate? Or Pakis have assumed this right themselves ? UN resolution is matter between India and people of Kashmir , how Pakis are interested in this matter?
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Avneet
Manchester, United Kingdom
Don't know why, but if a billion hindus and muslims can integrate and live together in India, what can't a hand full of Kashmiri muslims have such a problem that they want their own country (and everyone knows it's really about merging into Pakistan). It's like a small part of South Korea trying to break away to go with North Korea so they can live a poor and hungry life?!! Talking about 7 decades of opression, you forgot to mention that millions of hindu pandits were kicked out of the valley or killed, their homes burned in Kashmir. I think it's in the best interest of Kashmir to stay a part of India and call the line of control an international border or else the Pakistani militants will ruin what's left of it.
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Javed
Islamabad, Pakistan
Nitin
It’s a nice idea.

How will you convince the Kashmiris that there will be no riots like Gujrat. There will be no fake encounter like Batala House encounter.
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
Javed,

What’s happening in NWFP / Afghanistan, was happening in Kashmir, and to an extend, is still happening. I think for Muslims to prosper, they need to follow the likes of Turkey, and not Iran and other Islamic nations.

People are going crazy about religion, but for their prosperity, people need to focus on education, democracy and fundamental rights of human beings.

Regarding Gujarat riots: It was apparently started by Muslims who ignited a Hindu train.

Batla House: You are saying what Pakistan’s media is showing you, but unfortunately, Pakistan’s media has no credibility. All the attacks in Delhi over the years, most of terrorists were based and supported in that area. I have studied in that area, and trust me, I know that area inside out.
(Global Perspectives)
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
I met a Kashmiri Muslim in Scotland a year back, who agreed that the reputation of India was much better than that of Pakistan. However, on the same day, he actively supported the Pakistani cricket team, against the India cricket team. And this is not a new case. Even during 1980-1990, Pakistan’s victory in Kashmir was celebrated with huge celebrations, and their loss with a mass blackout and protest.

”Rozan Chus Hindustan as manz, magar dil chum Pakistan as manz”. This is a saying in Kashmiri, referring to a Kashmiri Muslims, which means: Even though I live in Hindustan, but my heart is with Pakistan.

Anyways, my predictions for Pakistan, in near future.

I believe the fundamental aim of the US is to destroy all terrorists training centres / militia hideout’s so that these camps are not used against America in Afghanistan, Pakistan in Pakistan and Kashmir in India. Being the epicentre of terrorism, this is a vital step towards global security.

Look at Americans, they wanted to destroy Soviet Union and they did; they wanted to control oil from Iraq & gulf states, they did; they wanted to keep China in check, they did by supplying India access to nuclear materials; now they want to dismantle terror hubs and training camps in Pakistan, believe me, they will do it.

The next step(after NWFP) will be to destroy training camps in Pakistan administered Kashmir and other nearby areas. This may commence by: American’s claiming that Osama & other Taliban members have fled to Pakistan administered Kashmir. Since they need to be flushed out, Americans found a reason to get into deeper in Pakistan.

This is a systematic operation to dismantle Pakistan, which is utmost important for global security, and obviously on Indian behest. We cannot tolerate a Muslims neighbour, armed with Nukes.

The only solution according to me, is that Pakistan gives in to Indian demands about Kashmir and solve all disputes. Else, I see another Afghanistan in the making.
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Umar
Islamabad, Pakistan
@Nitin
Batla house encounter: Political parties in India are demanding an inquiry into this encounter. Muslims are protesting against this encounter.
Where as I think they were the students of a university and Indian police have made them scapegoats in the name of terrorists.
Burnt train: It has not been proved that train was burnt by Muslims. It was merely a miss happening.
Muslim countries should follow the Iran by developing the nuclear weapons. Have only America and western countries got the license of nuclear weapons?
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
I think the time is right that Muslims across the world to analyse what is going wrong. Why such a great religion, great nations, empires are losing their reputation today?

See what’s happening in NWPF and other Islamic nations (Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan etc). India is saved so far, because of the non-Muslims majority, otherwise we would have been in the same league.

I am again saying, strong education, democratic government, social rights hold the key to success of any nation today. It’s smart to be flow with the current, than against it, something nations like Turkey, Malaysia, and Gulf states are doing.

Do you want to be like North Korea, which has nuclear weapons, but at the same time, has horrible reputation and is financially very week.

Or like South Korea, where there are no nuclear weapons, but they have treaties with Japan and USA, and are economically & technologically extremely superior that their counterparts?

I think flowing with the current is the smarter way out, i.e. build treaties with India and the USA and progress economically, than fighting there economically and technologically s superior nations.

I know it may hurt the ego to start with, but from a long term strategic perspective, this holds the key to prosperous Pakistan and South Asia.
(Global Perspectives)
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
Dude! Where have you been hiding? Pakistan already has nukes!

Soon they will fall into the hands of the Taliban and then Iran won’t have to worry about trying to figure out how to make a nuclear bomb, they will have some already made by Pakistan of whatever is left of Pakistan.
(Global Perspectives)
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
I know Pakistan has nukes!

What I meant was that it’s safer & better option to be a South Korea today, than a North Korea.

Don’t worry, Pakistan nukes will never fall into Taliban’s or Iran’s hand (I am sure America and Israel wont let that happen). I even think that Pakistan has lost or will loose complete control over their nukes, to the Americans or IAEA.
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
Oh sorry, I was addressing Umar, I didn’t realize my post would end up on top of his.

I wish I could be as confident as you are the Taliban won’t end up with the nukes.

Pakistan has already rolled over like a whipped dog and presented its soft underbelly to the Terrorists. They handed over thousands of their own men, women and children to the monsters, what else will they give? Who else will they betray? How far will they go to save their own asses?
(Global Perspectives)
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
About your movie, live action is very expensive so maybe you could do an animated version like the 2007 movie Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi. Which is FABULOUS by the way! Or make it into a book or even a graphic novel and maybe someone else will make it into a movie.



P.S. I do get satire when I see it :)

Best wishes
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
Thanks Nuya,

That would actually be a good idea. However I have no experience of making movies and I have no funding at all.

However I certainly will make a movie, using clips / bytes from internet. Thanks for your idea.

Do let me know how you could help for the above project?? We’ll share the profits...:)
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
Hey, I am really good with video editing! I have done some for college professors and some for convention proposals and a BUNCH for movie remixes that I put on Youtube. Sony Movie Studio is not expensive or difficult to learn and I could give you tips on some editing tricks.

You already have your outline made out, so it shouldn’t be that difficult to organize. I have gotten a lot of raw material from the internet for my projects. I also scan text and pictures to add in with video clips, it adds some interest.

Video editing is a really fun hobby, well, I like it maybe you will too.
(Global Perspectives)
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
Sounds Fantastic.....

I have just downloaded Sony Movie Studio, but need to learn editing and other movie making skills, even though it’s quite use friendly.

Let me try first for some time, if I think it’s not going to well, then how about I give you the complete script,screenplay and audio, and you direct my movie?
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Javed
Islamabad, Pakistan
Nitin
You didn’t answer the questions of Umar.

What happened actually at Batala house encounter? Were they not the innocent university students?
Why the accused of Gujrat riots in India have not been penalized, yet?
Why Indian police is torturing the innocent Muslims in the name of terrorists?
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Irfan
Islamabad, Pakistan
Nitin
You didn’t answer the questions of Umar.

What happened actually at Batala house encounter? Were they not the innocent university students?
Why the accused of Gujrat riots in India have not been penalized, yet?
Why Indian police is torturing the innocent Muslims in the name of terrorists?
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
Irfan,

Actually I did answer, but I’ll reply again.

Batala house encounter: Batla House / Nizamudin area, has been a stronghold of Muslims population living in Delhi. I have studied in that area and know that place inside out. The Terrorists always manage to get safe refuge in these areas, during various attacks on Delhi.

Students these days not innocent, but they are the one who are being targeted by religious fanatic’s, to carry out dreadful acts. And if you see crime graph of India, most of the outlaws, anti-social elements belong to Muslim community. I don’t profoundly know about the encounter, but it was a missions to eradicate anti-social / India elements. Trust me, had they been innocent students, Muslims across India would have created uproar.
Were they students: Yes, Were they anti India elements: Yes


Gujrat riots: It was really a sad day in the Indian history. Hindus apparently claim that Muslims first burnt their train, which killed scores of people. However politics is a very complicated business. Do you think the massacre of Sikh community in 1984 have been brought to justice; do you think people behind killings of innocent Hindus in Kashmir(more than 10,000) have been brought to justice, do you think people attacking Christian societies have been brought to justice?

My friend we are a developing nation and the politics is something I cant really comprehend.

Please don’s segregate Indian population in the name of religion. There have been grave injustice to people of India on several occasions, but I will not segregate them in the name of religion, region, community, colour or any other thing.

Torture of Innocent Muslims: How do you know they were innocent? Please don’t go by Pakistani media reports which are not credible and trustworthy. Muslims across the world are extremely vulnerable to being a soft target for radical organisations. They can be quite easily tempted to wage jihads and take up weapons, by some religious brainwashing. I don’ agree that Muslims are being targeted in India, but I agree that there might be few cases of mistaken identity.

The only solution to this problem is education and good employment at grass root levels. An educated, well informed and well to do Muslims will never take up arms.

I hope I have answered your question. I know you will not agree, but I have just given my point of view.

By the way: Why are Pakistani’s concerned about Indian Muslims and not about their own community. If I give you a list of atrocities happening in Pakistan, trust me, your few hand-picked points will appear bleak before them!
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Sachin Kumar
shimla, India
You are right Nitin
The only solution to the problem of terrorism is education and employment to youths.
But recession is going on.
What do you think there will be a rise in terrorism due to recession.
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
Crime rates rise everywhere when the economy turns bad. The biggest increase is always violence against women and children.
(Global Perspectives)
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Nitin Ticku
London, United Kingdom
I agree with Nuya that recessions and unemployment, will give rise to crime.

First of all, India is officially not in recessions. It is actually doing very well incomparison to other nations like USA, UK, Japan and other booming economies.

Will recessions affect terrorism? This might appear to be a very small question, but in actuality is a very complex questions, which even top defence & economic analysts will struggle to answer.

Technically, recessions is not directly linked with terrorism, but there are few things, which are bound to happen:

1) Since Middle Eastern Nations are also facing severe economic crisis, the funding to Islamic organisations from M.E nations will definitely go down.

2) Nations where terrorism is rampant (Pakistan-NWFP, Afghanistan, Iraq etc), recessions should not affect at all. They live in a secluded world, and don’t rely on jobs or a sound economic system.

3) The biggest question is how long does America intend to stay in Afghanistan. Remember they are looking for an exit strategy, at the same time want to flush out terrorists. Unemployment, unstable and bankrupt Pakistan can be very dangerous, as more and more people might be opting to choose the path of extremism, something India should be wary of.
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
The stories about the corruption being so bad that they even steal the food from the relief agencies and then sell it to starving people.

I imagine that some will join up with terrorists just to be able to get something to eat and a place to sleep.

I think America would make more progress against terrorists if they spent the money building factories and funding farms and schools.

The problem with that is they would have to have armed guards round the clock to protect from terrorists AND the corrupt government.
(Global Perspectives)
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Sachin Kumar
shimla, India
You are right Nitin

India is not officially in recession. It’s because of the fact that the Indian economy is not as much liberalized as those of US, UK and Japan.
Still people are losing jobs here.
I think it will be better for countries like India to promote the public sector for avoiding any recession type situation further.
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Souransu
Calicut, India
Nuya
I think there is a direct connection between terrorism and recession. The financially deprived sections are more vulnerable to terrorist activities. That’s why Muslims are engaged in such activities. With the deepening of crises there will be an increase in the terrorist activities as more and more people will lose their jobs. Even people are of the view that due to recession there is an increase in shooting incidents in US.
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Vijay
Kota, India
Nitin,once a Mughal Badshah describe Kashmir as heaven on the earth.
For Pakistan any body would say,if there’s hell on the earth,it’s in Pakistan.
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